Biblical Leniency
Posted on | April 28, 2003 | 72 Comments
The Bible reads that it’s ok for a man to have feelings for another man, but he may not act upon those feelings. Look but don’t touch!
Category: Religion
Posted on | April 28, 2003 | 72 Comments
The Bible reads that it’s ok for a man to have feelings for another man, but he may not act upon those feelings. Look but don’t touch!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
A Question – just out of sheer curiousity… what verses from the bible were used to obtain this fact… punkrockr53@aol.com
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
me too.. – i would also like to know where you saw that.. haha..that is funny…
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Uh, – Uh, exactly what Bible were you reading?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Food for thought. – Perhaps you misinterpreted the kind of feelings that were meant.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
hmmm? – wut kinda feelings? a man may love another man, yes, but did it say that he could be physically attracted to him. (is that how u spell attracted?)
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
uhhh – haha wow i’ve never seen that in any bibles I’ve read!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
what the…..? – Hey i want to know what stupid dickhead wrote the screwed up Bible u r reading because that individual is a liar. When the Bible speaks of love in that sense, it is speaking if friendsip or fellowship, NOT a physical or romantic attraction. God hates homos. ok, so i’m not politically correct. BITE ME!!!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
whoa nelly! – Okay janehoe, take it easy. and i’m sure God loves people who ridicule people and have no consideration for others’ feelings.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
What Bible are you reading!? – I have NEVER read that in the Bible! I don’t think such a Bible is in existence! God says homosexuality is a SIN!!! HE despises homosexuality as much as murder! What kind of screwed up, inaccurate Bible are you reading?!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
DANG!! – You ppl are so mean! I’m bi. Deal with it. And since I don’t believe in God, I won’t go to hell. PLUS it’s God’s fault that there are gay ppl since he created everything.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
just a note – i am not going for or against anything that has been said, just giving evidence. In Leviticus 20:13 it says “if a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads”.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
ummmmmmmmmmm……. NO – Hey CrimsonCut, ur a jackass. God gave us free will, and it is the fagots own fault they chose to live that way, so dont blame God
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
sure……… – no it says in the bible that a man should love another as his neighbor. but it also says that if you THINK something its jus as bad a sdoing it! and ADAM and EVE not ADAM and STEVE. thats why he created oppisite sex’s for a reason!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
I might have guessed. – The place with all the hatred being espoused is the Religion section.
I read a book once, about this guy who so unutterably full of life and love in spirit, passion and intellect in action, that many came to regard him as the Messiah or “Anointed” one of the Jewish faith. He was the central figure in a number of belief systems which eventually became known very generally as Christianity. He is venerated as a prophet of Islam.
Not a great deal is know about him, but it does seem that he spent a lot of time, towards the end of his life, riding rough-shod over social convention, breaking a great many common laws, and befriending people who were seen as the scummiest and lowest “sinners” in society.
He did not, as far as I’m aware, spend much time banging on about what God “hates”, or what He will to do to punish transgressors.
If this guy was doing today what he did back then, I imagine he wouldn’t spend a lot of time in Church. I would think he’d be playing Soccer with kids in a crime-ridden neighborhood, convincing them that guns and gangs are a waste of time. He’d be holding the hand of a gay guy dying of AIDS, not commenting on how he deserved it.
No information is ever worthless, but it can be taken out of context or used in the wrong ways.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
herectic – That was very well put and I want to say to all those poeple against gay poeple that you are really mean and that you act freakin’ idiotic.Don’t call me an idiot or any other bad name you know because I don’t freakin’ care.You are a jerk!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Hey wingmaster… – Gay ppl dont choose to be gay. SOmetimes u have to use ur brain and think, would anyone CHOOSE to be gay? I’d never choose this lifestyle but I deal with it and so should u.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
it’s a sin… – It’s a sin to be gay for all u ppl who don’t know that. God kreated Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. God didn’t intend for homosexuality to be bought up on this world. It says it all in the book of Genisis, and Moxie don’t blame God for putting gay ppl on the earth, so since u don’t believe in God u have to blame God for putting gay ppl on the earth. ppl decide rather they wanna be homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual. God kreated ppl and everything else until ppl in the world started sinning, (and being gay is a BIG sin). God didn’t make that choice for them, they’re the one who made that choice. So, u need to get ur fact straight, and don’t be blaming shit on God for something he didn’t do.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Just an athiest afterthought… – I’m an athiest, and I dont care… but my uncle is gay… and he’s a really good person… no… i dont think its the PERSON”S fault for being homosexual!! Can one help their own attraction??? No! They can’t! its not like you can force someone to be attracted to the opposite sex. i agree with heretic and pity you fools who are so blinded by your own prejeduces that you cannot see the person underneath. Personally, it sickens me…
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
THANK YOU – Trivia Queen, you’ve just said everything that I was thinking reading Santana’s post. I think gay people are ok. I think it’s a little odd, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t like them, they’re just different.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
fuck santa – My god! PPL (ppl being santa) are so closed minded, never thinking its God’s fault! he put us on the planet and he MADE us have feelings…so if you FEEL for a man isn’t it God’s fault? Yes God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve, that’s because he wanted to reproduce…now everyone thinx Adam and Eve are white..so where did black people come from? I guess its a sin to black now too…
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
ahem – God doesn’t exist, so that whole thing you just said means nothing.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
You’re Welcome! – ur welcome deadbob. glad 2 know sum1 agrees… but dont dis christianity just cuz ur an athiest. they have a luxury, don’t they? They have the comfort of God, so don’t try to ruin it.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Deadbob and Trivia Queen… – The both of u are both fuckin stupid, if God don’t exist how the hell u got on the earth..how the hell did all this other shit got on the earth?..becuz he kreated everything, and of kourse stupid-ass ppl like u guys ain’t gonna believe me, becuz of the both of u are both fuckin athiest…since u guys don’t believe in God, why don’t the both of u worship the god-damn devil in that kase, and Mrs. Fooker race ain’t got nothing to do with it, and FUCK U TO U DUMB BITCH, and DEADBOB shut the fuck up God do exist, u don’t know shit, and u shut the fuck up to TRIVIAQUEEN. Why don’t the both of u go and worship the fuckin devil, and DEADBOB if u don’t believe that God does not exist read Genesis chapter one, and read all the shit he’s kreated…and of kourse u still won’t belive it becuz ur a motha fuckin athiest, and the same thing goes with TRIVIAQUEEN, and TRIVIAQUEEN most definitely fuck u, becuz u been buggin the living hell out of me on all these fuckin komments..find someone else to bother and if u don’t want to go…shut the fuck up and go stick a dick in ur mouth u stupid, retarded-ass bitch!!!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
SANTANA!! – FUCK YOU YOU SHITTY ASS HOLE!! I DONT HAVE NETHING AGAINST YOUR GOD!! I DO NOT WORSHIP THE FUCKING DEVIL, BECAUSE IM AN ATHIEST!! DUH! I DON’T THINK HE EXISTS EITHER! AND IN CASE YOU DIDN’T REALIZE IT, PEOPLE CREATE PEOPLE! TALKIN BOUT RACIST, YOU SAID RACE HAS NOTHING 2 DO WITH IT! YOU ARE PREJEDUCE AGAINST ATHIESTS, YOU IDIOT BASTARD! AND IM ONLY BUGGIN YOU CUZ YOURE A MOTHER FUCKIN ASS HOLE!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Serously, – Santana, you’re like a second PANZER. Racist, stupid, and completely illiterate. We know that Humans and all other life on earth were created by evolution, starting from a single cell. As to what created the Big Bang, which created everything that we see and do not see, I have no idea, but I highly doubt that it was created by one man who controlled everything, knew everything, and created everything. It doesn’t matter anymore, debating this is useless. Religion is based on faith, and once you make the leap of faith, once you truly belive in something so strongly, it’s hard to go back. We the athiests insist that religion is a hoax and everything can be explained logicaly, you the Cristians, Catholics, ect. insist in something to belive, something to explain the unexplained. The more we argue the more we’ll belive in our faiths and the harder it’ll be to persuade eachother next time. So it’s pointless to be arguing about it anymore. P.S. Yes I did read Genisis, in fact when I was a child my father made me memorize the entire Bible, and that was when I turned athiest.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Once again…Deadbob and TriviaQueen *flips both of u dumbasses off* – TriviaQueen, number one, ur dumbass motha fucka needs to get ur fuckin fakt straight..I never said I was a god-damn racist, and I ain’t a god-damn racist, so don’t put words in my mouth, u dumb bitch, and that goes for u to Deadbob, and ur saying that I’m illiterate and shit..u need to know how to read what I’m saying here, becuz I never said that I’m a racist-ass person, so ur dumbass needs to quit putting words in my mouth, all I said was this damn topik ain’t got nothing to do with race becuz another person kommented about race, but that’s besides the point….and TRIVIAQUEEN u seem kinda angry and u know what?…..I DON’T GIVE A SHIT HOW FUCKIN PISSED UR ASS IS..I’m just invoicing my opinion and if u don’t like u kan kut off ur dick and stick in ur ass, and besides ur the MOTHA FUCKIN, DICK SUCKIN, KUM SWALLOWIN BITCH, U DUMB-ASS BASTARD, and DEADBOB trust me I ain’t like Panzar (whoever the fuck he is) I think ur dumb motha fuckin ass is probably racist, and last but not least ur the one who’s STUPID, and most likely illiterate..so if I was u, I wouldn’t say shit, becuz u don’t know shit..and quit putting words, which I never said in my mouth..so I think u need to REREAD what I wrote, becuz ur saying things what u think… not what u know. So, don’t try to fuckin judge me u fuckin bastard..it don’t work that way with me DEADBOB when ur damn father made u memorize the whole Bible (if u really did), give me one good reason why ur dumbass turned athiest?? I bet u ain’t got a good reason becuz ur stupid as hell…when I read ur komment I just started laughing becuz that was the most stupidest, shitty-ass komment I have ever read in this section (especially at the end).
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
and one more thing…this goes out to TRIVIAQUEEN – TRIVIAQUEEN, If I’m racist against atheist, how kome ik someone who’s athiest?..ur ass kan believe or not..I really dc what u say or think, and this person ik is kool as hell. So, before u start saying shit that I”m racist against athiests, I think u need to get ur fuckin fakt straight to. Don’t say shit what u don’t know. So, u and ur buddy DON’T KNOW SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
ok. im going 2 stay as calm as possible – I am not racist, nor will i ever be. i apologize for accusing you of being racist, but it seems 2 me that you have something against homosexuals. and the one and only reason i have anything against you is because you offend people and put them down so much. somehow you always manage 2 piss someone off. once again, i apologize, and would appreciate it if u stopped calling me a dumb bitch cuz i have an iq of 170, believe it or not.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
and Deadbob… – definitely all athiests think the big bang was the way it happened. i know i dont. just doesnt seem right.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
>.< i meant DONT think that way – … *points 2 title*
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Sigh… – 1) PANZER was an ass from about a year ago who would post on almost every board calling someone a stupid ass bitch. (or similar) He was also very racist to jewish people, gays, and just about anyone not christian. As far as I can see you are VERY similar to him. 2) I called you illiterate because YOU CAN’T SPELL SHIT!! You even spell cool with a K. 3) The reason I turned athiest was because after memorizing the entire Bible, I learned that it was full of crap! None of those stories are real, they’re fables, simply stories told to set boundries. The Bible was solely created as a book of laws, and what people saw as the right way to act, and that if you followed these laws, that you would be protected. None of them are true, nor should they have any affect on your life.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Oh…God-damn u DEADBOB ur so fuckin stupid. – Let me say one thing…just becuz I kall u a stupid-ass bitch doesn’t mean I’m a fuckin racist, and fuck PANZAR if he’s like that, and I ain’t like that if ur ass wanna believe it or not…I like everyone no matter what race, nationality, sex or whatever, but that’s besides the point..let me just get ur fakt straight..I think ur the stupid,and an illiterate person, becuz I spell the way I want to when I’m on the damn internet saying shit to ppl..I don’t spell every damn word out, and certain words I spell the way I want…So, before u think u know every damn thing about me, u just need to get ur fuckin fakt straight..just like I said earlier don’t think what u don’t know. HOW STUPID ARE U?..AND ON UR THIRD KOMMENT…JUST DON’T SAY NO MORE, BECUZ THE MORE U TALK THE MORE U STUPIDER U SOUND!!!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Listen – Hey, sorry to interupt your little argument and i dont mean to sound preachy at all but c’mon, you ppl prob. dont even know eachother- is it really that hard to say ‘okay, you have your opinions and i have mine’ with out cursing? you people are acting like animals! This is what wars are made of. People just taking differences way to far!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
well, i tried -.-; – I tried to apologize. he doesnt have to accept an apology if he doesnt want. in real life i never really get angry. i just dont like ppl dissing other ppls opinions. thats all.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
I APOLOGIZE DEADBOB AND TRIVIAQUEEN…. – TRIVIAQUEEN, ur right, everyone has their own opinions about different issues, and to admit it was stupid of me to insult the both of u becuz of what u both believe. I mean I guess everything went out of hand…and I”m sry TRIVIAQUEEN if I didn’t apologize to u earlier, I guess after reading HUMMER’S post it kinda made me think about how I was to u and DEADBOB (and I”m apologizing to u also DEADBOB) if the both of u don’t wanna except my apology u really don’t have to, but I’m really am sry for the rude komments I’ve made to the both of u…I mean everyone has their own beliefs and differences…and TRIVIAQUEEN I”m sry for dissing ur opinions as well as urs DEADBOB…so I just wanted to apologize to the both of u…well, I really dk what else to say, but I”m sry.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
this site – this is what i love about this site, everyone getting along, no foul language, everyone excepting each other…lol
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
*** – Accepting everyone…sry
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
yay!!! – ok, all three of us were being jerks, so its ok. thanx 4 apologizing
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
back to the biblical leniency… – i am jewish and have never read the jewish-version of the bible (torah) because it is in another language, but i have been taught that god loves everyone, and it doesn’t matter if you are bi or not. in the jewish religon, justice is one of the most valued things in a person, sometimes even higher than love, only because love is a feeling, and you cannot force someone to have a certain feeling. but justice is something that can make you a better person. justice is treating people fairly, and if god wants us to treat other people of all diversities fairly, then why wouldn’t he himself?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
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August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Happily ever after – who knew that a worthless fact page could bring people together like this lol.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
uh – God doesnt hate gay people, he hates their choice of lifestyle. I hate gays, as does most of society who is straight
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Better Hope You Are Right – I am not going to get involved in the whole gay controversy, that is between them and God. God does love everyone, so much he sent his only Son to die for all of us crappy people, ALL OF US. I am just going to say to the Atheists that I would much rather be wrong in believing there is a God. Rather than believe that there is not a God and then die and stand before Him saying, “Oops, they were right.”
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Truth – You people are acting exactly God would have want us. Our feelings and stubborness gets in the way, but then we think about it and we accept people how they really are. Noone should really hate one another. it’s love that God himself brought a son to the world so Jesus Christ would forgive human sins. And the commandments are guides, we follow because we believe. Jesus was not perfect either, he did have manly desires and acted so strong against them. This is all i’m saying. And Santana, before you rack up somebody’s opinion, try to be in their shoes and think what they were brought up to believe. Don’t judge to harshly guys, there’s enough hate and cruelity in the world without other people encouraging it. Love.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
like you would know – Dude, all you people saying that that’s not in the Bible, I’d be willing to bet that none of you (maybe like one) have read the Bible cover to cover. Because it does say that. And whatever the Bible says is what Christianity is, so whoever said that the Bible was lying and that wasn’t Christianity, be logical. Instead of the Bible being wrong, couldn’t it be that you are just misinformed?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
to deadbob (btw) – OK, I don’t agree with everything Santana said in that one comment, but you’re like a pot calling the kettle black. Calling him illiterate, and you misspelled eight words in ONE paragraph. Sorry, but that’s pathetic. Plus the fact that you made the stupidest comment I have ever heard. Perhaps you have never seen a Bible, but in case you didn’t notice, it’s one big book, with thin pages, and tiny print. No child, especially one as stupid as you must have been, could memorize that. Also, do you have any idea how many thousands of years it would take for the right cells to come together to form even one working eye? And yet you believe that the whole universe was created by chance. Evolution, logical? Ahh, that makes me laugh. Oh yeah, and by the way. When a 13-year old (that’d be me) is more intelligent than some over-opinionated, self-proclaimed expert on everything, which usually means you know nothing (that’d be you), you need to seriously consider going back to school…or becoming a hobo. Ah, but why am I yelling at you now? Enjoy your short life while you can. Soon you’ll be tortured and burned for eternity in the flames of Hell.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
think again – remember that the bible was writen by people and people make many mistakes
even in writeing
it doesnt matter what the bible rely says ‘there more like guidelines than actual ruels anyway’ so if god loves every creature that he created than how could he hate homos?it realy doesnt matter that much(exept if youre god)
and what about hermafrodits(people that have both femal and male reproducteve organes)doesnt god love them
how are they suposed to find love snd stuff?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
al his fault – deadbob:u hav no proof that life was created by a single cell or the big bang shit,n also its ur dads fault that u dont beleiv in g-d any more because he made you think that being religeous is a chore.i think he shud apologize to u n also i think u were bein a bit dunb 2 becom athiest cuz ur dad made u memorize the bible, i meen just cuz he made u do somthin umdidnt wana that hada do w/ religeon dosnt meen u havta giv up on it. my parents make me do extra things 4 skool but do i giv up on skool? no. n also u said that we believ that earth was created by a man. we dont. thats the point, G-D ISNT HUMAN!!!!n also relideon isnt based on faith only there is proof in the bible/torah,n if u dont believ in the bible/torah then ther is no piont in even explainin the proof.n uALLSUK: u dont hate gay ppl ur just afraid of them. U HOMOPHOBE!!!!!n im afrain that shinynjewish is realy makin me laf at how much sens shinynjewish is makin over u guys hu r probly adultslol:)
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
dumb – ricepudin:if u realy wanted 2 read the torah u cuda. thre ar like 20 bilion difrent companies that translate the torah word 4 word
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
justa thout – how can athiests believ in heavan n hell if they dont believ in g-d?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
justa thout – how can athiests believ in heavan n hell if they dont believ in g-d?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
santana – ok look santana or whoever you r, i dnt think you bleev in god that much bcoz if you did and u had read the bible you would understand that you treat peopl as u wood like to be treated urself ryt? so i dnt think callin trivia queen or anyone a else bitchy names and tellin them to fuck off or wotever is reli backin up your point that god is real fair play i accept your view, i bleev in god sure, but just becoz someone is athiest doesnt mean you have the right to critisize and judge and also you say god-damn hell and all that do you think god would b happy with word usage?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
moo – holy crap that’s a lot of comments
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Disappointed.. – This website should just be named worthless, because there’s very few topics remotely factual.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Dead Sea Scrolls – I dont mean to insult anyone, especially our red neck bible thumpers (A.K.A dani_o16 and janedoe22). But just because it was in the bible doesnt mean its right. The bible wasnt actually written until a couple hundred years after Christs death. And have you ever heard of the Dead Sea scrolls? They contain nearly all of the uncut Old Testament. So the bible is really a censored version put out for the masses. The writings found in the Dead Sea scrolls are actual documents from around the time of Jesus that show him as more of a mere mortal than a holy profit. In general religion has gone too far, what right does religion have to dictate how one should live their life?
Oh yea, and to the A.K.As mentioned above, are you so insecure in your own sexuality that you must try to belittle things that you (possibly) do not understand and, or is it more of a power/ego trip for you. Putting down some to make yourselves feel better about the way your lives have turned out?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Spelling – Jewishfred please learn how to spell properly. Im sure your making some kind of valid point but if no one can read it whats the point?
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Hypothalamus – I know this is my third comment in a row but I thought it was an interesting point to bring in. In comment to wingmaster19 message earlier about choosing that life style for themselves (of course not put so eloquently). In recent studies it has been shown that homosexuality may actually be a biological factor. You see, in tests the hypothalamus in homosexuals is actually smaller than average. So before you start saying how gay people choose this life style for themselves, maybe you should take your head out of your ass long enough to get a better perspective of things and maybe do a little research. And Santana201J, do yourself a favour and shut-up.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
uh…just asking here… – could you people please stop saying “g*d-damn” that means “go to hell god”, ok…please? anyway see ya!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
soz if i hurt anyone – to say first off i am not a christian, and please dont tell me off for that i can pick any religion i want. second, since ur father made you memorise the bible and thats why you became christian, good for you. first i have never read the bible but i hope swearing is not a sin lol or else basically all of you peps willl probably go…. you know. anyways i was wondering, if god is so perfect and almighty, then why does he punish people for making a mistake? he is supposed to let people do what they want although if they dont belive in him they will burn! what is that all about. And i think this whole world and stuff was probly created by gods or a small molecule or somthing, please think about my question before you start swearing at me like i was just arrested for murder or somthing. and i think that being homosexual was not meant but is all right to do thank you for reading my thing and i hope that i didnt insult you i tried to be nice. AND PLEASE EVERYONE STOP SWEARING!!!!!!!!!!
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Bigots – DAMN!!!! janedoe22, I used to think you were pretty cool, but that last comment made me HATE you. “God hates homos.” Wow, you are one of the most retarded people I know. I hate all you fucking uber-conservative evangelical christians. You’re such FUCKING hyppocrites! The bible says that god loves ALL his children. This is obviously excluding anyone who’s a different religion, dispite the fact that their worshipping the SAME FUCKING GOD, and anyone who has a natural genetic imbalance that makes them gay. This also excludes blacks too, right morons?! And of course, I’ve masturbated, so now I’m evil and going straight to hell for all eternity, RIGHT?! Goddamn, you people are such hyppocrites. It makes me SO mad seeing you homophobes act like morons. Do you also hate blacks and communists? GAYS ARE PEOPLE TOO! But of course they’re unholy. Let’s round them up and put them in concentration camps. FUCK! I’m sorry for all the profanity, but I abcolutely HATE all the fucking bigots out there, such as janedoe22.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
chill – yo people just chill out a little. people ahve different beleifs. respect that.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
im me with an argument – go ahead argue with me if you want (bbob201 on aim) God created man and woman not for reproduction but because man needed a helper (Genesis 2) and yes the Bible also states that homosexuality would happen but does in NO way condone it (2 Tim 3) and yes if you’re going to ask i do believe we are in the last days as according to the first verses. As an atheist if you still want to argue the point that you dont believe in God or a god, than go ahead and look outside and tell me what you think made everything (Psalm 19:1) now I am going to leave and IM me with your opinion
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
fuck dick ass – umm holy shit guys fucking guys in the ass is my thinking of gay but guys fuck girls in the hole so wouldnt that make guys bi?who fucking gives ~^~ sincerly~^~ fuk you dickfucks~^~
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
still no answer – noone has yet answered where the verses came from,
and no screwing a women’s butt doesnt make someone bi and
deadbob, if God doesnt exist stop arguing his exisence at least you have your facts straight.
Yes alex Jesus was perfect. Gayness is a choice. And no chistians don’t hate gay people. Yes we despise their choice of who to love but we in noway hate them (Im speaking for the generality of most christians)
to Janedoe22 I loved the comment except God doesnt hate homos he hates their sins.
to The heretic what did you just say because it made hardly any sense, for one thing yes Jesus did break all the Jewish laws because He had come to change the laws, Yes Jesus spent time with sinners because He wanted them saved (Zachius) yes Jeus would be holding the queers hand but in love for his soul and where He wants it to end up after he dies.
back to deadbob, according to the comment you posted on August 13 tell me where in the Bible that there is any contradiction, and while yer at it, tell me how you “learned the Bible is full of crap”
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Thisis the most rediculous Nationwide argument since slavery – Firstly, I’m not gamingguy, I’m actually his brother typing.
To find a group of people to hate seems to be the favorite pasttime of America for centuries, and it is the job of the Christians to find reasons that the hate is righteous. I know this is incredibly sacreligious, but that is what it seems to me. Don’t forget that in the nineteenth century, it was the christians that decided that God cursed Ham, and therefore African-Americans were somehow not the same as an other race of people. This is not in the slightest implying that anyone who posted on this topic is at all racist (although some could be, I don’t know), but it is giving another example of misusing the bible for unholy means. Now it has become obvious how absurd this original assumption was.
I have read the entire chapter 20, hidden away in the old testament in the third book of Moses, whithin which is section 13 stating that “When a man lies with MANKIND the way he would lie with a woman, then he …”. It goes on to explain how he is unholy etc. The rest of the chapter gives many examples of incense and how they are sins. However, Mankind has been a term so general, that it has been consistantly misused for sexist and other purposes. Keep in mind that your bible has been translated from Latin, and that Mankind has been chosen rather than man, indicating that it is not simply a statement invoving homosexuality.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
~Continuation of last post – In the chapter directly before the one involving Homosexuality, a chapter placed in a spot of HIGHER importance, the following sins were stated. Marking your body, which seems to include tattoos and the like , is a sin. When food is planted, ritual lengths of time are given to when that food should be eaten. Owners of vineyards should not pick every grape, but should leave some for paupers. My point is that the interpretation of the bible changes. Note that now people eat meat on fridays. There are those of us who don’t go to church every Sabath, and that violates one of the Ten Commandments! There are quotes stating that shrimp should not be eaten, and much else besides. You can’t condemn everyone in the world, there has to be a limit.
So then how do Christians choose which parts to go by. Extreme literalist ultra-conservative Christians occasionally attempt to do EVERYTHING that the bible says, but this is essentially impossible. Mostly, we look to the general tenements of faith and christianity. We choose a particular kind of Christianity, and believe in their interpretation. We look to higher figures, such as the pope. We pray to God.
When I look at what forms the tenements of Christianity in its most basic form, I think of freedom, justice, equality, and most of all love. Christ condensed the hundreds of pages of scriptures on Christianity (or more like jewdeism) into two basic principles: (1) love EVERYONE (even enemies and people with different beliefs) as you would love yourself; and love God most of all. If you believe that God willed the correct scriptures to be put togethor as the word of the Lord, and that every word is litterally meant, I won’t argue with you, because your faith is set, and I can’t prove you wrong. But those of you who consider yourselves Catholic, or Protestant, or whatever you choose, I encourage you to look at what that group really believes in, and why they believe it before you condemn 10% of the population to eternal doom. An example may startle you: the pope says that Adam and Eve was a fable written (indirectly) by God to make the point that he should not be disobeyed, and that for that reason, evolution is entirely compatible with the Roman Catholic faith. He may even believe in it himself.
And finally, something to think about. If God truly meant everything he said in the bible, why did he word it in a way that paradoxically contradicts itself so many times? Perhaps he didn’t and in fact it was the error of human reproduction of the material that caused this confusion. Or maybe not everything in the bible still implies after Jesus came to end such confusion and set down the real laws of God.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
The right way of doing things – Notice that I didn’t yell at anyone, or curse anyone. No one will listen to or understand what you said. Now I’m going to leave and read the bible to make sure I don’t accidentally wait three weeks instead of four before eating a particular fruit out of the seventh tree in my apple grove which is now exactly 49 years old, and make sure that I spit out the right number of seeds to complete the ritual layed out in The book of Bogus, 84,356:93.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
woah… – Way to go, bro! You totally pwned them! And he’s absolutely right. I watched him get our bible and read it. He’s now part of this site, as Eebster the Great.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
heehee – This is post 69.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Homosexual behavior -
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Homosexual behavior – Gays got no fault in it. This behaviour starts before the gays are born. Just like DNA compositions that makes people different and unique. Do you see the people that are born having no legs or having lower IQ or impotency since birth. These things are not sins. This are done by God for a purpose. D o you know that the population is heavily increasing? You might consider this as one purpose for why there are gays existing. To slow down populatin growth. One more example of purpose is that they can be those who understand girls better and can provide as a friend and companion on troubling times. I would refer to homosexual behaviour as being “greatly sensitive to others both emotionally and psychologically”. Thank you for reading.
August 19th, 2008 @ 12:00 am
Absolutely right! – If God is kind, loving, and forgiving, then why does he make people gay and then declare it a sin? They have as much control over that as straight people have over liking the opposite sex. It’s not like they choose.